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« on: September 11, 2011, 11:22:15 PM »

To all the fanfair on almost three thousand lifes lost on september the 11th 2001, lets all remember the lifes of 1000's of people around the world each year whos lifes are not remembered because people of white skin in the west are more important than people of dark skin and blood in the under developed world.
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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2011, 01:13:15 AM »

Good point Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2011, 02:40:14 AM »

Hear hear.
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2011, 03:02:16 AM »

To all the fanfair on almost three thousand lifes lost on september the 11th 2001, lets all remember the lifes of 1000's of people around the world each year whos lifes are not remembered because people of white skin in the west are more important than people of dark skin and blood in the under developed world.

Lets remember all the thousands of people whose lifes are not remembered regardless of where they live, what their skin color is or other classification that we have to decide who is more deserving.  That would be better than focusing on one group of people
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2011, 10:23:59 AM »

Sadly, people are nationalistic. The Utøya killing spree here in Norway is still on the front pages of the newspapers after two months. For comparison, the newspapers hardly write anything about the situation in Syria; maybe a small column in the mid-section now and then.
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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2011, 03:23:58 PM »

Lets remember all the thousands of people whose lifes are not remembered regardless of where they live, what their skin color is or other classification that we have to decide who is more deserving.  That would be better than focusing on one group of people

I agree. I think there is a lot of sadness in the world, but it's not a reason to not remember those who lost their lives in 9/11
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2011, 06:41:51 AM »

I'm sick of 9/11.  What about the billions that have died from other means? No...that isn't as important, right? Don't get me wrong.  I saw what happened at 9:00 in the morning that morning - I bawled my eyes out as I desperately for 5 hours composed a fugue (yeah, I dabble in music a little) on the computer to express my extreme feelings of ultimate despair while I could barely see the monitor and blowing my nose from a whole box of tissues; what else could I do? But still - instead of remembering it and creating merchandise to make money off of it; perhaps (warning - extreme sarcasm) it might be just slightly more beneficial to...I don't know...teach morality to all - show others why it is bad to do certain things and actually perhaps care for each other? No! That would mean that we as individuals would have to be responsible for our bad behaviors - and we are NEVER wrong, right? Not in my backyard!!! That's right...my morals are perfect - I am never wrong...and your morals aren't as good as mine, which is why I should rule and lead you all...(thus begins the dictator's reign and loss of hope for us all)

Here I go ranting again, reader.  I really need to learn how to manage my anger.  It is a problem I have always have had.  In any case, I honestly with all of my heart want to sympathize with anyone who has lost anyone close to them in any battle or war.  War is just pointless.  (hug)
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2011, 07:56:22 AM »

I think it would be fair to keep a running tally of all casualties from terrorist attacks since 9/11, but that's not a reason not to remember those that died that day.
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2011, 08:20:36 AM »

To be fair...we of the USA see it as something of importance.  We don't expect people of other nations to be affected by it.  Just as your nation's disasters and unnecessary loss of life take precedence of another nation's.  It is the same with everyone on this board...your family's welfare comes before any one else (you would otherwise have a homeless person living with you...sharing equally...and why stop there?).  It is also not the majority of the nation that keeps it foremost in their minds.  Their family's concerns takes precedence...the day to day operation of their lives.  It is the media that dictates what...and how many times...we see something on TV.

It was bad.  It deserves to be talked about in the US.  It should be of concern to other allied nations as the perpetrators of the attack may affect their nations.  Some people mindlessly wave the flag.  The majority of citizens do not.  It is in the back of our minds...not in the front...demanding our dedicated obsession.  To live for the future is of utmost importance.  However...to forget that the attack is to not just forget the murder of innocents...it was the nature of using the advantage of having an open society (no "where are your papers") to its detriment.  It was the attempt to destroy the confidence of free access of its people....the unhindered opportunity of its people to work together...to progress as a people.  Just as to kill someone in a declared war being different from murdering someone in their sleep...especially by a spouse.  When unlimited war is adhered to...there is no honor (nothing to keep someone from doing the most damage to the most people without limit - as an example...biological warfare on the world after having inoculated just your population).  It would result in anarchy.  It would make teamwork among nations near impossible as there could be no trust.  People would then be trapped in the lowest level of Maslow's Hierarchy of needs...as they would have to scale back their interactions with others out of security needs.

It was not just about the deaths of the people...it was the type of warfare perpetrated that should concern all.
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2011, 02:47:11 AM »

Sadly, people are nationalistic. The Utøya killing spree here in Norway is still on the front pages of the newspapers after two months. For comparison, the newspapers hardly write anything about the situation in Syria; maybe a small column in the mid-section now and then.
In all fairness though, how much space have Syrian papers spent on the terror in Norway? Westerners are very quick to criticise 'their own' for paying more attention to their own problems, but in all fairness, that is only natural and it is the way of people world wide. The problems close at home are more significant to you/your nation/culture than that of others.

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To be fair...we of the USA see it as something of importance.  We don't expect people of other nations to be affected by it.

Now that is a statement I have seen from other Americans as well, but I don't get it.
I sure was affected by it back in 2001, and it was emotionally perceived as an attack on the entire western civilisation. I remember the strange mood here after 9/11. Similar to what the grandparent gen experienced during WW2. Like people were on the same wave length, a sense of general unity I hadn't seen before, and only resurfaced right after 22/7.


I can easily understand though why people losing their loved ones might feel somewhat bitter that those losses are so officially grieved,
while the deaths of their loved ones, the shattering of their personal world, go unnoticed by the rest of the world.

Not to mention those of us who get blank stares because our personal shattering is due to the loss of our beloved pet/s!  Angry Dont get me started
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