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« on: July 03, 2010, 07:29:56 AM » |
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I believe unconditional love applies only to a certain number of very limited relationships.
Unconditional love: Parent to child - no matter what happens..he is who he is because of your observed actions and heard words. He started pure.. innocent...knowing nothing of evil. You help mold him...he becomes of like mind in many ways. There is no other stronger bond.
The only others that I could see fitting here would be your pets (I consider them family) as they have basically the same criteria explained above.
Conditional love: I hope all of you place your romantic relationships here. There should be conditions on your love for all others than your child. To accept...chronic maltreatment...psychologically...physically...is for only someone who has never loved themselves. Infidelity...a robbing of memories (they would have been a lie) and of life (The time spent with them took away from potential soul mates) is them telling you, through their actions, not only that they do not love you..but that they don't even have basic human respect for you. NEVER ALLOW THEM TO KEEP HAPPENING! If you never have love for yourself...you can never know the beauty of love of another or of life.
Actions truly tell of the intent....words...too often, are used to deceive.
Your thoughts or experiences?
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2010, 07:54:31 AM » |
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Unconditional love does not exist amongst human beings even amongst those with difficulties. The only one that show such love is god
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why get anxious in life about not having friends or anything for that matter what help impossible for people to provide or that they wont provide is possible for god and he will provide. Book of matthew last versus "low I am with you always even to the end of the world amen"
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2010, 08:24:33 AM » |
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You must not be a parent...believe me...there is no stronger love...nor should there be.
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2010, 06:26:27 PM » |
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I don't think there is a such thing as unconditional love. Even people (and animals) that really love you, would turn if you screwed up badly enough times. (This has never happened to me, but I've heard about it happening.)
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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2010, 12:46:16 AM » |
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My mother had no love for me. She said that I was so horrible that she would have taken any of the other kids home than me. I met her when I was 22. She told me that is how she felt then and feelings hadn't changed. She had another child so she obviously had maternal feelings.
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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2010, 01:21:47 AM » |
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My mother had no love for me. She said that I was so horrible that she would have taken any of the other kids home than me. I met her when I was 22. She told me that is how she felt then and feelings hadn't changed. She had another child so she obviously had maternal feelings.
That's a pretty tough break. Sorry to hear that.  |
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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2010, 11:36:00 AM » |
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I don't think there is a such thing as unconditional love. Even people (and animals) that really love you, would turn if you screwed up badly enough times. (This has never happened to me, but I've heard about it happening.)
Ah...but that is opposite of what I had expressed (parent TO child / your pets...love of)...it is YOUR love of them that is unconditional. In your mind...your children shall always be first and foremost. In theirs...it shall be true romantic love...and then THEIR love of their children that shall supercede their love for you. That is the way it should be. Maternal and Paternal instinct is what allows parents to do for their children when great sacrifices are called for. Society would not progress at nearly the necessary speed were this not true. I would think that we would not have survived as a civilization were it not true. |
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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2010, 03:32:35 PM » |
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My mother had no love for me. She said that I was so horrible that she would have taken any of the other kids home than me. I met her when I was 22. She told me that is how she felt then and feelings hadn't changed. She had another child so she obviously had maternal feelings.
That's really sad!! I'm sorry. |
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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2010, 03:36:37 PM » |
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My mother had no love for me. She said that I was so horrible that she would have taken any of the other kids home than me. I met her when I was 22. She told me that is how she felt then and feelings hadn't changed. She had another child so she obviously had maternal feelings.
I, of course, don't know any of the situation that had occurred between you and your mother. She may have been too young when she had you, and so, was unable to cope with life. It may have been physiological...a lack of Oxytocin...anyway...that you cannot control...you can control how you relate to your future children. You know the pain of estrangement from your mother...give unrelenting love to your children when you become a parent. Your love for your children shall be a strength that drives you to accomplish things for their benefit. You shall benefit, they shall benefit...great happiness awaits you. Be the best you can be for yourself...and for them. |
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2010, 12:25:16 AM » |
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I always thought that because I was dumped as a baby that is why I was different from other people. Later I met a girl in class and we went out for a meal one night. She was just like me and she had a really loving family. I realised then that my difference must be genetic. We became friends.
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2010, 06:23:11 PM » |
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I always thought that because I was dumped as a baby that is why I was different from other people. Later I met a girl in class and we went out for a meal one night. She was just like me and she had a really loving family. I realised then that my difference must be genetic. We became friends.
Your focus on being different from other people is misplaced IMO...I am quite different from most people I have met in life - and I am glad for it....they are not my measure...finding out my passions....following them while making a good living...loving myself...and so others...and so life...those are my measures. Find out what truly makes you happy...during your trek of passion fulfillment...you shall meet others on the same trek...you will find a close bond...and hopefully love. |
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2010, 02:47:05 AM » |
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I find that your analysis of my post is rather strange. I analysed my life. I slept with my mother. You don't know what I went through.
I think she had unconditional love. I certainly didn't.
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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2010, 04:47:54 AM » |
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I am saying what should be. Not what was in your life...or what is.
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2010, 12:48:38 AM » |
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I don't believe parents love unconditionally, my parents for instance have always treated me as a second class citizen and many parents secretly hate their children and mourn they didn't get the children they wanted. Though they will not openly admit this.
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2010, 05:56:03 AM » |
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I don't believe parents love unconditionally, my parents for instance have always treated me as a second class citizen and many parents secretly hate their children and mourn they didn't get the children they wanted. Though they will not openly admit this.
That is sad....but unfortunately true in some cases. Parents SHOULD love their children unconditionally....some don't however. |
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