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« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2010, 09:53:33 AM »

If I can have sex with women and make money, i have life.

If not, I die.

Pretty simple.

I won't go as far as to say that making money in unimportant, as well obviously we all need to make a living but it it is a about as important as washing the dishes or mopping a floor.

As for sex, it is pretty meaningless really unless their is something more to it than just the act. A lot of people go through a period where they thing sex in the answer, I know I certainly did, but it isn't, and actually I found that a lot of meaningless sex actually just made be feel depressed and did my self esteem no favours at all.
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« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2010, 10:02:18 AM »

I won't go as far as to say that making money in unimportant, as well obviously we all need to make a living but it it is a about as important as washing the dishes or mopping a floor.

As for sex, it is pretty meaningless really unless their is something more to it than just the act. A lot of people go through a period where they thing sex in the answer, I know I certainly did, but it isn't, and actually I found that a lot of meaningless sex actually just made be feel depressed and did my self esteem no favours at all.



What I want is to have company with other people, but I don't like the traditional things that people do, just talking, or having lunch, or doing whatever - all of that depresses me.  But I like sex.  And people like sex too.  So it's a ticket both to physical pleasure and keeping good company with others and fulfils both needs.  And people you have sex with are well-disposed towards you in other ways.  They become more affectionate towards you.
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« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2010, 02:13:09 PM »

What I want is to have company with other people, but I don't like the traditional things that people do, just talking, or having lunch, or doing whatever - all of that depresses me.  But I like sex.  And people like sex too.  So it's a ticket both to physical pleasure and keeping good company with others and fulfils both needs.  And people you have sex with are well-disposed towards you in other ways.  They become more affectionate towards you.

I was in a similar frame of mind when I was younger. The truth is that it is a very lonely and depressing way to live and ultimately it is just self destructive behaviour. I hope for your sake you come out of it with less scars than I carried.
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« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2010, 02:35:12 PM »

I was in a similar frame of mind when I was younger. The truth is that it is a very lonely and depressing way to live and ultimately it is just self destructive behaviour. I hope for your sake you come out of it with less scars than I carried.



I couldn't care less.  I have bought enough pills from the internet to thoroughly poison myself to death.  I can do it anytime I like.  I have nothing to live for.  Nobody employs me and everybody thinks I'm a joke.  When I run out of money I'll swallow three hundred pills and die of an enormous heart attack. 
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« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2010, 02:43:04 PM »

As one of my favourite american authors once said:

“Anyone desperate enough for suicide...should be desperate enough to go to creative extremes to solve problems: elope at midnight, stow away on the boat to New Zealand and start over, do what they always wanted to do but were afraid to try.”
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« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2010, 02:44:50 PM »

As one of my favourite american authors once said:

“Anyone desperate enough for suicide...should be desperate enough to go to creative extremes to solve problems: elope at midnight, stow away on the boat to New Zealand and start over, do what they always wanted to do but were afraid to try.”



To cheer myself up and try and change my mindset I tried boasting about being a sex god among women (i.e. the direct opposite of what I really am) and all it got me was a lot of very hurtful criticism and a permaban from a website that supposedly is friendly to autistic people.

So, i'm just about finished with people ... they'll hate me whatever I do.  Wink
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« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2010, 02:49:30 PM »

Then don't "Do" anything, just take a little time to work out who you actually are, and then be yourself. Most people put on a front of some kind to show themselves in a better or more socially acceptable light, but personally I find the whole thing too exhausting and I can't manage it on top of everthing else, so I am just me. It is much easier and a lot less stressful.
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« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2010, 02:57:20 PM »

Then don't "Do" anything, just take a little time to work out who you actually are, and then be yourself. Most people put on a front of some kind to show themselves in a better or more socially acceptable light, but personally I find the whole thing too exhausting and I can't manage it on top of everthing else, so I am just me. It is much easier and a lot less stressful.



Oh believe me, I really don't do anything.  Some days I don't even get out of bed.  I don't bother speaking to anyone.  I already feel like my life is winding down and there's little left to do.  The logical conclusion is a self-inflicted death.  To reach 30 in this state is pretty much unthinkable.

I guess ... I wanted the chance to earn a living and have some fun like everybody else ... but I wasn't good enough.

I didn't 'qualify'.

And it's so hurtful everytime I see this -->  Roll Eyes --> on a girl's face, I really would rather stare at my shoes the whole time I'm outside.  Wink
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« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2010, 03:04:51 PM »

That isn't quite what I meant, but never mind. Why not look at voluntery groups or something similar where everyone has something in common to focus on. Take evening classes ect, so that just like the other people in attendance you have something in common to talk about and use those things as a basis to improve your social life, with the end goal being a relationship. Given your feelings at the moment, what harm can it do?
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« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2010, 03:31:40 PM »

The harm it could do is that it could make me feel even worse.

I have a long history of failure behind me.

Nowadays, to be honest, I would rather find ways to escape, and ways to avoid having to think about painful things.

Wow ... if you could think of so many chances to get with attractive women that you missed, it would totally impair your ability to react to them now ... because all of your experiences in that direction are bad.

Therefore ... better to escape to fantasy world, much less harsh than the real one.   Wink

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« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2010, 03:51:51 PM »

The harm it could do is that it could make me feel even worse.

I have a long history of failure behind me.

Nowadays, to be honest, I would rather find ways to escape, and ways to avoid having to think about painful things.

Wow ... if you could think of so many chances to get with attractive women that you missed, it would totally impair your ability to react to them now ... because all of your experiences in that direction are bad.

Therefore ... better to escape to fantasy world, much less harsh than the real one.   Wink


Failure is no reason to stop trying something new and even if you did try something new and you failed completely and utterly at it, is it really going to make you feel that much worse than you are feeling now?

As for the rest, sure sex is good, but it isn't particullarly important. From what you have written, you seem to see someone you are attracted too and then see them as another potential lay that got away. That attitude makes a lot of unhealthy assumptions.
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« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2010, 04:04:03 PM »

Failure is no reason to stop trying something new and even if you did try something new and you failed completely and utterly at it, is it really going to make you feel that much worse than you are feeling now?

As for the rest, sure sex is good, but it isn't particullarly important. From what you have written, you seem to see someone you are attracted too and then see them as another potential lay that got away. That attitude makes a lot of unhealthy assumptions.




I see people (99% of the time women Wink ) as beautiful and sexy ... but because I don't know what to say, I'd rather, for example, kiss them on the hand, or show affection in some other way.  Because I can't convey it in words.  Smiley

Now if they like me and want to stick with me and go to the movies and eat out with me and enjoy my company that would be great.  But my last experience was with a girl who found me boring.  She found me attractive enough that she wanted sex with me and even got me drunk and took me round to her flat a few times.  At that time I was not as clear-minded as I am now.  Had I had sex with her, things would have been so much better.  As it happened she got terribly bored of me.

THEREFORE ... my opinion now is that it would be nice to meet girls who like to drink and have sex (which feels good and is exciting), because my experience so far has been that otherwise they find me boring and don't want anything to do with me.  Tongue

Or, you could say I am like somebody who comes to the dinner table just to eat the food, and then leaves when he's full ... while everybody else feels compelled to sit there for ages and chat, which is totally BORING!  Tongue
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« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2010, 05:02:45 PM »

How about starting by saying hello, and asking them about themselves (nothing too personal too personal obviously) and well getting to know them a bit, and then you can explain the problems that you have (in terms you feel are appropriate) and if she is interested she will make the effort to get to know you too.

These is nothing wrong with no strings attached sex, in fact when you are single it is a lot of fun, but it shouldn't be a lifestyle choice.

If you want to look at it more logically, you say you are lonely and like sex. Well if you are in a healthy relationship you have a companion and sex.
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« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2010, 05:28:10 PM »

How about starting by saying hello, and asking them about themselves (nothing too personal too personal obviously) and well getting to know them a bit, and then you can explain the problems that you have (in terms you feel are appropriate) and if she is interested she will make the effort to get to know you too.

These is nothing wrong with no strings attached sex, in fact when you are single it is a lot of fun, but it shouldn't be a lifestyle choice.

If you want to look at it more logically, you say you are lonely and like sex. Well if you are in a healthy relationship you have a companion and sex.



It's true ... I need a cute, hot girl who will really like me and we can both look out for each other.   Cry

By far the biggest thing is my remembering all my past failures.  Why, I went out to post some letters just now and saw a couple of women looking at me, kind of awkwardly, but they were interested, but, it was just more lost opportunities.

As long as a girl is pretty and nice I would like her ... no matter her opinions on politics or whether she smokes ... my needs are so simple, yet so unfulfilled.

I just like being with women, they are soft and gentle and very intelligent.  Wink
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« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2010, 06:26:10 AM »

I ment I agree with what you are you saying maybe poor choice of english on my part.  I can look at things from another prespective now adays I have developed that capability. not easy but it is possible.  I agree with all that you were saying when I looked at it from that prespective.

Great...I was wondering where everything had gone astray.  I figured with all the cancellations necessary in that sentence that it could become confusing...even to the author.   LOL     I am glad you agree.  There is so much hope when a fundamental understanding is achieved.  Don't stop improving.  Good luck to you brother.
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